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With regards to this question: "When you find one...

2009-05-21T11:06:36.087-04:00

With regards to this question:

"When you find one still open are you placing bets? If so, are you keeping the money?"

I have never profited from a past posted bet. My goal is simply to force the racing industry to improve their faulty tote system - Mike Maloney

(oops, I forgot there was a (rather unfriendly) se...

2009-05-20T22:20:55.225-04:00

(oops, I forgot there was a (rather unfriendly) self appointed member of the spelling police on patrol here)

I would like to HEAR how (and when) those refunds were announced at the live wagering sites.

-- Raleigh

It hasn't been pointed out that when all of the $ ...

2009-05-20T21:42:04.167-04:00

It hasn't been pointed out that when all of the $ from the "refund only" bets was subtracted from the betting pools, the odds on all the horses, etc. abruptly changed.

THAT must have been a shock.

I would like to here how (and when) those refunds ...

2009-05-20T21:26:09.261-04:00

I would like to here how (and when) those refunds were announced at the live wagering sites.

-- Raleigh

It looks like it may have happened again -- today ...

2009-05-20T20:10:31.920-04:00

It looks like it may have happened again -- today Penn National.

http://www.drf.com/drfPDFChartRacesIndexAction.do?TRK=PEN&CTY=USA&DATE=20090520&RN=2

"This race was declared a non-wagering event due to a tote malfunction."

How are you able to find out about these pools th...

2009-05-20T19:04:58.057-04:00

How are you able to find out about these pools that are still open? When you find one still open are you placing bets? If so, are you keeping the money?

Anon, Via Paulick: "Betting windows at 33 simulca...

2009-05-20T15:56:57.351-04:00

Anon,

Via Paulick: "Betting windows at 33 simulcast sites remained open on Saturday’s Los Angeles Handicap at Hollywood Park until after the Grade 3 stakes race had been run because they did not receive a stop betting signal from the Scientific Games tote system that contracts with California racetracks to handle pari-mutuel wagering. "

HANA

"The only problem was that the betting windows wer...

2009-05-20T15:43:12.917-04:00

"The only problem was that the betting windows were still open."

Where did you find n open winodw? Not in CA. i assume?

Thank you for pointing out the spelling mistake. I...

2009-05-20T13:15:13.715-04:00

Thank you for pointing out the spelling mistake. It has been fixed.

HANA

'The public unknowingly wagered hundreds of thousa...

2009-05-20T02:44:59.953-04:00

'The public unknowingly wagered hundreds of thousands of dollars into non-secure mutual pools, and the CHRB should protect the public's interest.'

...and since all of those sites who did NOT receive the stop betting signal were kicked out of the pools, ensuring the integrity of the parimutuel pools.

PS - Since you are a self appointed 'expert' you should probably learn the

Isn't this something that the NTRA Safety and Inte...

2009-05-19T20:19:11.870-04:00

Isn't this something that the NTRA Safety and Integrity Committee should investigate?!?

ESPN and Citgo had a similar problem in their for ...

2009-05-19T18:39:06.693-04:00

ESPN and Citgo had a similar problem in their for free handicapping contest a few years ago. But they were amateurs compared to the Scientific Games and Hollywood Park "con....", I mean professionals.

I don't understand why the tote companies continue...

2009-05-19T16:27:00.000-04:00

I don't understand why the tote companies continue to have these "malfunction" problems. They have a time/date stamp (down to the second) on bet transactions. They have a time/date recording (down to the second) of when the "stop betting" signal gets sent from the host track. So even when the "stop betting" signal notification fails, the backup time/date stamp can be used to accept/reject the

Mike, Thanks for being the watchdog on these wager...

2009-05-19T15:05:00.000-04:00

Mike,
Thanks for being the watchdog on these wagering integrity issues. As a result of seeing your piece, I've posted a more comprehensive story at paulickreport.com, with comments from Hollywood Park and the California HOrse Racing Board and "no comment" from the tote company (except for an internal email that "explains" the mistake).

My question: if you had not discovered this