tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484410456100254393.post5409347129986329750..comments2024-01-17T03:17:36.984-05:00Comments on Horseplayers Association of North America: Has the Time Come?HANAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17545107814723134177noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484410456100254393.post-35666946380069546082010-10-19T23:51:49.762-04:002010-10-19T23:51:49.762-04:00Yes. It was a wrench to bet on the West Coast any...Yes. It was a wrench to bet on the West Coast anyway, because of the time difference from the East where I live. Also, their racing has declined tremendously over the past decade, with too many short fields, too many odd new surfaces, and the annoyance of too many shippers from overseas. On a trip two years ago I stopped for a day at Santa Anita and was appalled by how run down their plant hasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484410456100254393.post-57765694893555523532010-10-11T08:00:16.755-04:002010-10-11T08:00:16.755-04:00I am tired of clueless politicians running the sho...I am tired of clueless politicians running the show and ruining things and ignoring the people's voice. Thanks HANA for keeping us informed and for fighting for us.<br /><br />Time to boycott Cali.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484410456100254393.post-67881323033158014492010-10-10T03:28:50.384-04:002010-10-10T03:28:50.384-04:00This is just the icing on the cake. The California...This is just the icing on the cake. The California races have been deteriorating over the last 5-10 years. Short uncompetitive fields. I will certainly stop my wagering there straight and otherwise.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13237519964966351244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484410456100254393.post-87016955372231365052010-10-09T03:59:18.167-04:002010-10-09T03:59:18.167-04:00The 6th race at Mountaineer Park on Friday 10/7. ...The 6th race at Mountaineer Park on Friday 10/7. The 1 Horse was 9/2 in the gate, made the front an 1/8th in, showed 5-1 the opened up a lead and went to 9/5. Won by open lengths. Makes playing races totally annoying.David Gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484410456100254393.post-10144877303154667512010-10-09T03:26:10.466-04:002010-10-09T03:26:10.466-04:00FYI, it is too late! I approached two industry peo...FYI, it is too late! I approached two industry people who have been fighting the good fight for years, and they declined to help HANA. Intelligent players have stopped betting, as there is no value and have moved on. Have you been to the races lately and looked at who is betting? I swear, I was behind a man who purchased a 65 cent voucher. The most popular bet with many is the ten-cent superfectaJohn Collinsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484410456100254393.post-12339571248385223822010-10-03T13:45:27.910-04:002010-10-03T13:45:27.910-04:00Cary is correct. The only way anything will chang...Cary is correct. The only way anything will change os for the betting public to stop betting for awhile.<br /><br />I personally do not understand why it would be that difficult to accomplish throgh the effective use of the internet.Frank Polknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484410456100254393.post-6825089348244774182010-10-01T19:34:32.002-04:002010-10-01T19:34:32.002-04:00I am mad as hell, and I am not going to take it an...I am mad as hell, and I am not going to take it any more.<br /><br />YOU MUST BOYCOTT all CA RACING!<br /><br />Handle needs to go to ZERO, otherwise these clowns in charge will blame it on the economy.<br /><br />So, Russell Baze will win another 20,000 races on 2-5 shots instead of 3-5 shots.Spectacular Bidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484410456100254393.post-49484523446577322762010-10-01T16:45:47.683-04:002010-10-01T16:45:47.683-04:00For almost three years now, we we've discussed...For almost three years now, we we've discussed getting takeout lowered because it was already excessive, but we have done little about it beyond complaining as individuals.<br /><br />Whether or not this has had the effect of emboldening the industry to further increase takeout is debatable, but it has to be obvious to most horseplayers that the manner in which the latest increase in Indultonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484410456100254393.post-7569483392014637322010-09-30T15:48:46.052-04:002010-09-30T15:48:46.052-04:00I am one of the documented thousands that have wal...I am one of the documented thousands that have walked away from the game, at least from a wagering position. It looks like I will continue my personal boycott somewhat longer now with the position the CHRB has taken with their increased take in CA. It is somewhat unbelievable that this is the course of action taken. Once again, the horseplayer, the lifeblood of the game, is the group abused.Hajck Hillstromnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484410456100254393.post-63029571470500053152010-09-29T12:29:47.955-04:002010-09-29T12:29:47.955-04:00Thank you for all the comments, via email, or here...Thank you for all the comments, via email, or here. Please keep them coming.<br /><br />There are other discussions on the web with many, many comments.<br /><br />At HRI, where Bill Christine has called for two CHRB members to step down there are many from players:<br /><br />http://www.horseraceinsider.com/west-coast-wash/comments/09272010-get-out-the-lifeboats/<br /><br />At Pace there are a HANAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17545107814723134177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484410456100254393.post-4197027390859745762010-09-29T09:41:18.988-04:002010-09-29T09:41:18.988-04:00And the beat goes on..
To David Israel - It'...And the beat goes on..<br /><br />To David Israel - It's all about the GAMBLING, stupid.<br /><br />I have been fighting the takeout war for over a decade now. But no matter how many panels or boards are convened (and I've been on countless ones) nothing good will happen unless players take revolutionary action. <br /><br />Most executives in the industry, along with the bureaucrats andCary Fotiashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01484368641733823558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484410456100254393.post-3760230715171768582010-09-29T00:20:33.144-04:002010-09-29T00:20:33.144-04:00i'm in...
where is the NTRA in all of this? ...i'm in...<br /><br />where is the NTRA in all of this? useless as ever!ericnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484410456100254393.post-21816917332376547822010-09-29T00:01:16.718-04:002010-09-29T00:01:16.718-04:00Twenty years ago, my motivation to bet serious mon...Twenty years ago, my motivation to bet serious money on horseracing was directed toward California because of its relatively low takeout. <br /><br />Where have the sensible leaders of racing gone? It seems that the politicians appointed to Racing Boards fail to address what should be obvious to all -- that is, gamblers really do care about not just the entertainment of attending the races but Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484410456100254393.post-67428773976659794542010-09-28T20:20:54.325-04:002010-09-28T20:20:54.325-04:00Of course, enough is enough. Actually found it alm...Of course, enough is enough. Actually found it almost funny as they are in dire need of a takeout decrease with all the small fields. To often we see three horses at 2-1. <br /><br />Never a big LosAl player but made an occasional fun play on body language but have made none since the increase.<br /><br />Lets hope word grows and it becomes a big issue by Dec 26th!!donnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484410456100254393.post-24252937948945808342010-09-28T19:25:34.137-04:002010-09-28T19:25:34.137-04:00When I was younger, I would fight the cause. Now, ...When I was younger, I would fight the cause. Now, I just silently bet with my wallet.<br /><br />These clowns need to lose their jobs.<br /><br />Don't even buy a program and move on to the next track. Maryland raised the takeout and look at them now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484410456100254393.post-87829630193580769592010-09-28T19:11:16.654-04:002010-09-28T19:11:16.654-04:00Brackpool actually said they delivered the premier...Brackpool actually said they delivered the premier product on a year round basis as a justification for this? He is either dishonest or amazingly stupid. Even looking at their best meet, Del Mar, why are their constant barrage of Maiden $25K's and $12.5K claimers "premier" racing?Brian Russellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484410456100254393.post-39258861853281217322010-09-28T18:26:38.617-04:002010-09-28T18:26:38.617-04:00I'm in.I'm in.Steve Dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484410456100254393.post-25917013470956721762010-09-28T11:27:10.031-04:002010-09-28T11:27:10.031-04:00A boycott of Cal racing would also put TVG and Xpr...A boycott of Cal racing would also put TVG and XpressBet in the position of at least having to discuss this situation on air, I would think.<br /> The problem with boycotting Cal racing is probably that the customers who go just to play the huge pick 6 probably don't care about takeout.<br /> Maybe a well planned boycott of another track would show what the customeers can do, if properly Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484410456100254393.post-18385830234263787262010-09-28T09:24:31.133-04:002010-09-28T09:24:31.133-04:00Has the time come for an organized national player...<i>Has the time come for an organized national players’ boycott of California racing? </i><br /><br /><br />Absolutely and emphatically - yes.<br /><br />California Racing is too valuable to the national racing scene to allow an erosion of national wagering action. <br /><br />We waited four years before someone finally decided synthetics racetracks were a mistakes.<br /><br />We should not wait The_Knight_Skyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13497100877439699363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484410456100254393.post-71381510566410376742010-09-28T07:01:15.289-04:002010-09-28T07:01:15.289-04:00Yes! - It is time to draw a line in the sand. Not...Yes! - It is time to draw a line in the sand. Not only should this takeout increase be boycotted but the statement should be made that all future takeout increases in any jurisdiction will be boycotted.<br /><br />No one should bet California exotic parimutuel wagers!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484410456100254393.post-64647375582601360982010-09-28T06:43:36.496-04:002010-09-28T06:43:36.496-04:00A true no-brainer. First they cram poly down every...A true no-brainer. First they cram poly down everyone's throat and now this. Truely--a legislature with absolutely no idea of what is going on outside the walls of their own (taxpayer funded)building.<br /><br />Best,<br />PEMPEMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02938474334907657562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484410456100254393.post-19081052319662923912010-09-28T06:21:23.287-04:002010-09-28T06:21:23.287-04:00Yes. I think so.Yes. I think so.Philnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484410456100254393.post-59897630923290417932010-09-28T05:15:59.666-04:002010-09-28T05:15:59.666-04:00It's not a difficult choice to bet anyplace in...It's not a difficult choice to bet anyplace in the Country and it is a good idea to take our bets out of this state. <br /><br />Another thing we should take note of is the coming elections. CA State Assemblyman Jim Silva from Huntington Beach wrote to me and said he supports the tax increase. I have time to work in a campaign and I haven't done that for years so this might be a good Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01933950021816397501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484410456100254393.post-57371189141847204992010-09-28T04:52:08.033-04:002010-09-28T04:52:08.033-04:00Absolutely. I will no longer be playing any simulc...Absolutely. I will no longer be playing any simulcast feeds from the state of California. All of this seriously concerns me as I start to wonder if this will move eastward, toward my homestate of Arkansas.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484410456100254393.post-89360215483302250282010-09-28T04:15:07.867-04:002010-09-28T04:15:07.867-04:00Quite simply.... yes.Quite simply.... yes.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15580349973739747085noreply@blogger.com